[dns-operations] anti-business hippies (Re: the real reason for ICANN's gTLD expansion seems to be...)

Warren Kumari warren at kumari.net
Wed Jan 3 20:44:05 UTC 2018

The "Statistical Analysis of DNS Abuse in gTLDs" report makes for
interesting reading --
 While it was commissioned by the ICANN Competition, Consumer Trust
and Consumer Choice Review Team (CCTRT), many of the authors are well
known to us and good folk.
One of the more relevant findings (to this conversation) is "We find
that the new gTLDs have impacted spam counts of the legacy gTLDs:
abused domains in the new gTLDs do not increase the number of total
malicious registrations but instead, we observe a decrease in the
number of malicious registrations in legacy gTLDs." (mainly the bit
about total malicious registrations).

Some of the comments are also interesting

[0]: Full disclosure: I contributed to some comments.

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Paul Vixie <paul at redbarn.org> wrote:
> David C Lawrence wrote:
>> Kevin Murphy wrote:
>>>> Has the amount of abuse on the internet gone up since the
>>>> introduction of new gTLDs? There must be data on this.
>> John Franklin wrote:
>>> How would you quantify that?  I can see new gTLDs creating new
>>> portals on the internet for bad actors, but I would expect the
>>> number of said bad actors behind them to remain relatively stable.
>> I suspect that was Kevin's point, trying to suss out whether gTLD
>> expansion is in any way a part of making things worse, or essentially
>> neutral.
> i'm not sure why i would care. whether or not gtld-induced badness is part
> of a zero sum game is irrelevant. if there is net new badness, i don't like
> it. if it allowed some badness to move here from elsewhere, i don't like
> that either.
> --
> P Vixie
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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.

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