[dns-operations] New OARC Chat Platform

Ondřej Surý ondrej at sury.org
Tue Aug 25 08:26:51 UTC 2020

The details has been provided on OARC members list, so I’ll let Keith and Matt to decide the level of detail to provide, but the service is being hosted by a professional organization and is subject to confidentiality agreement. OARC Mattermost (the software) is not being run by OARC staff.

Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
ondrej at sury.org

> On 25. 8. 2020, at 8:19, Doug Barton <dougb at dougbarton.email> wrote:
> Is this something that OARC is operating and maintaining, or is it something that you're acting as a conduit for? The former would be included in my definition of "rolling your own." Are there seriously no existing communications platforms anywhere that provide adequate security?
> I ask because OARC is taking on a lot, and from my naive and distant view seems to have developed a bit of NIH syndrome. Looking at the migration of dnsviz for example, it's not clear to me why OARC volunteered to take that project on without adequate resourcing. And subsequently it wasn't clear why cloud solutions weren't utilized, which I imagine could have been cheaper, and faster. To my knowledge the historical data is still missing, is that correct?
> I don't intend this as armchair quarterbacking, I'm looking at it from the standpoint of whether or not putting resources into OARC is a good investment. Certainly the people involved, and the intentions of those people, are top notch. But without good decision making to support those intentions it's hard to justify contributing additional resources. Of course, that's just my opinion, and I hope that I'm wrong.
> Doug
> On 8/24/20 10:00 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>> Doug,
>> that’s *exactly* what OARC is doing. It’s not rolling “own” platform, it’s using existing platform that many existing teams are using as a communication platform. The added requirement for choosing a chat platform was a strong data protection. This is something that centralized platform (like Slack) can’t offer. Mattermost is a solid competitor on the market and I am glad that OARC moved away from Jabber both as a board member and OARC member.
>> Ondrej
>> --
>> Ondřej Surý <ondrej at sury.org> (He/Him)
>>> On 25. 8. 2020, at 1:43, Doug Barton <dougb at dougbarton.email> wrote:
>>> On 8/20/20 1:54 PM, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>> DNS OARC is pleased to announce that our new community chat server is open for access, augmenting the mailing lists we operate.
>>>> For many years, OARC has been operating a Jabber service which has been available to OARC Members.  We are replacing that service with a more modern chat platform using Mattermost.  OARC’s chat service is available for open signup at <https://chat.dns-oarc.net/>.
>>> While I think it's great that you're offering this service, I can't help asking why you're rolling your own instead of utilizing any of the many chat services that already exist? Slack comes immediately to mind, but it's far from the only commonly used platform at the moment.
>>> Doug
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