[dns-operations] on fragmentation attacks

Colm MacCárthaigh colm at stdlib.net
Fri Sep 13 20:17:05 UTC 2013

You write that it takes 3x RTTs to exchange a question and an answer over
TCP. I think it takes 2x RTTs, simple as that. FIN plays no role in answer
termination; clients don't wait on a FIN to decide that an answer is
usable. You go on to write that servers following the specification don't
unilaterally close the connection, but that's at odds with your description
of the sequence of packets. (and even that "incorrect" sequence would not
require 2x RTTs, since the server could dispatch its FIN without waiting).

Although i think it is valid to argue that DNS TCP requires 3x RTTs if you
want to count the original question over UDP + the TC=1 response. But I
don't think that's what you are saying in the article. Am I interpreting it

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Paul Vixie <paul at redbarn.org> wrote:

> fyi.
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