[dns-operations] Capturing 8.8.8.8 Traffic

[Carlos M. Martinez]

Hi!

On 2/25/13 5:38 PM, Graham Beneke wrote:
> ... snip ...
>> Needless to say that if you add to the mix ISPs who are willing to mess
>> with your NXDOMAINs for a buck.... the deal is sealed.
> 
> I have no interest in fiddling with the responses to that extent but
> where is the line? ;-)

Is there a line? :D

IMO, no messing with customer's packets at all without their informed
consent is where the line is.

That said, there is something to be said for easy-to-remember,
easy-to-type, DNS addresses. Why not write an I-D asking IANA for a
couple of very easy addresses that we can all agree to locally anycast ?

People can still choose to use Google's, but here you would be providing
and alternative and, people _will know_ that these addresses are
answered locally by their ISP. You are not mis-representing anyone.

That you can do this today with any address is of course true, but, as
we've been seeing with 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, some people just can't be
bothered.

cheers!

~Carlos

> 
> 
>> cheers!
>>
>> ~Carlos
>>
>> On 2/25/13 4:06 PM, SM wrote:
>>> Hi Graham,
>>> At 09:26 25-02-2013, Graham Beneke wrote:
>>>> office and NOC to a mom-and-pop IT shop. While I question the wisdom in
>>>> that, I was far more concerned by the fact that this mom-and-pop shop
>>>> had configured Google Public DNS as the resolver for everything on their
>>>> LAN.
>>>
>>> A lot of people use 8.8.8.8.  I don't know whether it is due to the
>>> lemming [1] effect or swarm intelligence.
>>>
>>>> Now on my corner of the planet Google DNS is 190ms away. Never mind the
>>>> mess we have with all the CDNs mapping their traffic to a different
>>>> continent.
>>>>
>>>> So what are you thoughts on capturing these queries and answering them
>>>> on local resolvers that are <10ms away?
>>>
>>> DNS interception is not a good idea in my opinion.
>>>
>>>> The folks at Google are certainly not going to encourage us to spoof
>>>> responses from their servers but are there any other potential pitfalls
>>>> with doing this to save the customers from themselves?
>>>
>>> Once that becomes popular the regulator might wish to "standardize" it
>>> (see draft-iab-filtering-considerations-02).  Saving the customers from
>>> themselves is a good intention.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -sm
>>>
>>> 1. Lemmings are small rodents that have been known to follow each other
>>> as they charge to their deaths off the edge of cliffs.  This is actually
>>> an unsubstantiated myth about lemmings.
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