[dns-operations] UPDATED ROOT ZONE FILE: 2008-05-04-01

[Jeroen Massar]

John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:
> 1. You need to learn how to use dns tools like dig. Apparently you used them 
> wrong. The a-record is there.
> please get a beginners guide to DNS.

Remember that you typed "http://worldroot.net", not 
"http://www.worldroot.net", and also, remember that most people on the 
Internet are using the real root, and not some private edition where the 
people don't even know how DNS works let alone how browsers use it.

Don't worry, I know perfectly fine how dig works, let me demonstrate it 
to you, as you clearly don't know how it works:

A "dig +trace worldroot.net", then we find the nameservers and:

8<---------------------------------------------------------
jeroen at abaddon:~$ dig @czones1.american-webmasters.net. worldroot.net. a

; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @czones1.american-webmasters.net. worldroot.net. a
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17817
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;worldroot.net.                 IN      A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
worldroot.net.          3600    IN      SOA 
CZONES1.AMERICAN-WEBMASTERS.net. hostmaster.AMERICAN-WEBMASTERS.net. 
2008032501 3600 300 3600000 3600

;; Query time: 130 msec
;; SERVER: 199.5.157.129#53(199.5.157.129)
;; WHEN: Sun May  4 20:27:23 2008
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 106
--------------------------------------------------------->8

Same result for czones2.american-webmasters.net

Just in case you don't understand, that states: "ANSWER: 0", aka no A 
record. Querying for an AAAA record reveals none either.

Just in case, lets try the ANY record:

$ dig +short @czones2.american-webmasters.net worldroot.net any
CZONES1.AMERICAN-WEBMASTERS.net. hostmaster.AMERICAN-WEBMASTERS.net. 
2008032501 3600 300 3600000 3600
0 ZIRA-THE-SPAMKILLER.ADNS.net.
CZONES2.AMERICAN-WEBMASTERS.net.
CZONES1.AMERICAN-WEBMASTERS.net.

Nope, no A record. Clearly you don't understand how DNS works indeed.

There is no SRV record either, thus even if browsers would understand 
that, it couldn't find it.

Now if you have a browser which *guesses* that it should prepend 'www.', 
then indeed it will work, but that has nothing to do with DNS. But that 
is probably the reason that it "works" for you.

But you know it all better, thus I hope that you keep on running your 
own private DNS root that way. Enjoy.

And you don't have to thank for the free DNS analysis.

> 2. The Inclusive Namespace is just as much as a part of the internet as the 
> crooked ICANN structure.

That you are not able to get to the top (like a lot of other people) and 
push your willings through doesn't mean they are crooked. That is just a 
slight disadvantage to this thing called 'democracy'.

> This is a DNS operations list. The announcement made was a DNS operational 
> announcement, therefore
> it is appropriate. You keep YOUR view of the internet off an ops list.

Then I hope you don't mind if people start announcing all the other 
10.000 failed 'alternate roots', let alone that they updated their 
"local." zone and other private views of the Internet? Indeed, that is 
not appropriate, thus please don't.

But just to avoid further filling up the list: thank you for reaching 
the postfix header checks, ciao ciao, enjoy your private "Interweb" ;)

Greets,
  Jeroen

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