[dns-operations] New root AXFR service? (Was: Re: the thread of the week)

Mark Andrews Mark_Andrews at isc.org
Fri Aug 3 02:20:43 UTC 2007

> Paul Vixie wrote:
> > some kind of AXFR-only service seems indicated.  we could put one
> > up on in a few days if IANA asked for it.  (that's F+1
> > as IP addresses go.)
> It should come as no surprise that I think this is a great idea.
> To take it a step further you could publish a TSIG key on the web
> site, signed by the current BIND pgp signing key. This would obviously
> not provide the same layer of authentication that DNSSEC would, but it
> would protect against data that might be mangled in flight. (One could
> also argue that this would be a bad thing because it would make a mitm
> attack more legitimate looking to the naive eye, but my feeling is
> that it's better to have it than not.) What requiring TSIG for the
> transfer _would_ do is raise the required wizardry level quite a bit.

	TSIG is not useful if the contents are not secret.

	TKEY would work but it extends the transaction time and consumes

	RRSIG AXFR is the solution that scales.
> Throw in IXFR and you'll greatly reduce the required bandwidth for all
> concerned (and avoid the meta-discussion about whether it's a good
> thing to rev the serial on the root zone twice a day in the absence of
> a real content change).
> To raise the required wizardry level a little higher still, what I'm
> currently thinking about is that rather than provide the commented out
> example of how to do it (using whatever mechanism), I could provide
> comments on where to go to find the instructions to do it. That way we
> could ensure that anyone who moves forward with this at least has
> enough clueballs in their pocket to follow instructions. It would also
> allow me to provide more depth in terms of the pros and cons for doing
> it than I can in the comments of the conf file.
> Do you actually need David to make a formal request? Or is this
> something you would consider doing if enough community members said
> that it sounds like a good idea? (And no, the irony of that question
> coming from me is not lost.)
> Doug
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