[dns-operations] DNS deluge for x.p.ctrc.cc

Mark Andrews Mark_Andrews at isc.org
Mon Feb 27 21:39:31 UTC 2006


> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 12:20:28AM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
> > > # What other applications using larger packets would it break?
> > > 
> > > responses containing AAAA RR's are one example.  RFC 2671 was not written
> > > pointlessly, or at least i hope (as its author) that it wasn't pointless.
> > 
> > What about query size limit.  At least for servers, or any host for
> > that matter, that would never receive DNS answers itself (e.g. in the
> > case of an authoritative only server), would limiting packets to 512
> > filter something potentially legitimate?
> > 
> > I realize this doesn't particularly help most victims in the wave of
> > attacks being discussed here, there have been attacks that shower 4KB
> > answers at hosts that should never be getting those answers.
> > 
> > Yes, I realize filtering at this granular level this is just a
> > band-aid.  Just curious in understanding what limitations there might
> > be on questions.
> 
> And, from the answer side of things, it is kind of too bad that there is
> no way for a client to signal back "I didn't ask you that question", or
> for a recursing nameserver to do something useful with a port unreach,
> etc.

	It's UDP.  You get "port unreach" in normal operations.
 
> ... JG
> -- 
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