[as112-ops] LOA Request for AS112 Prefixes

[Frank Habicht]

Hi,

On 02/11/2018 18:40, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 06:09, Siyuan Miao <aveline at misaka.io> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi DNS-OARC Admin,
>> 
>> We're having issues when announce AS112 prefixes to some certain
>> providers and they ask us LOA for AS112 prefixes.
>> 
>> Would that be possible to issue a LOA for this?
>> 
>> Best regards, Siyuan Miao

so I have problems understanding something.

if you're operating an AS112 instance,
- as an IXP, you offer it to all your peers, as value added service that
doesn't cost you anything
- as a $provider, you offer it to all your customers, to get have them
get the negative answers to the useless queries as fast as possible, and
without "costing" you anything

But [noting there are enough other instances in the world] why would I
want to tell my upstream: here, all your other customers, your peers,
everyone, from the other side of the globe, send that traffic to me, I
pay for it, <sarcasm>and when it's from the other side of the globe
we'll together make sure it takes as long as possible</sarcasm>.

Of course: many good things have come from volunteering things. But here
one is also opening the possibility for making flows less efficient, if
say your upstream now gets AS112 from one or many peerings, and after
this change they get and prefer it from you (customer) and then send
traffic from around the world to you...

I just believe AS112 packets shouldn't travel far.

Maybe operators should treat these widely anycasted prefixes as "golden"
and give same preference whether received from customer or peering. But
I think we're not there - and their network, their rules.


Am I missing something?
What?


Thanks,
Frank
[operating AS112 in TZ]