<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-family:monospace;white-space:pre">Posting in case anyone else is seeing this and to give DENIC additional
visibility. As of ~2026-05-05 21:43 UTC, validating resolvers are
returning SERVFAIL with EDE 6 (DNSSEC Bogus) for a substantial fraction
of .de names, including <a href="http://denic.de">denic.de</a> itself.

== Symptom ==

  $ dig <a href="http://denic.de">denic.de</a> @<a href="http://8.8.8.8">8.8.8.8</a> +noall +comments
  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL
  ; EDE: 6 (DNSSEC Bogus): (RRSIG with malformed signature found
    for <a href="http://a0d5d1p51kijsevll74k523htmq406bk.de/nsec3">a0d5d1p51kijsevll74k523htmq406bk.de/nsec3</a> (keytag=33834))

  $ dig <a href="http://denic.de">denic.de</a> @<a href="http://8.8.8.8">8.8.8.8</a> +cd +short      # bypass validation -> resolves

Reproduces against 8.8.8.8, 1.1.1.1, 9.9.9.9. Quad9's non-validating
endpoint 9.9.9.10 returns the answer with EDE 6 set. CD=1 always works.

== Scope (quick sample, 8.8.8.8) ==

    <a href="http://google.de">google.de</a>       NOERROR       (cached/working for now)
    <a href="http://heise.de">heise.de</a>        NOERROR       (cached/working for now)
    <a href="http://denic.de">denic.de</a>        SERVFAIL      EDE 6
    <a href="http://bahn.de">bahn.de</a>         SERVFAIL      EDE 6
    <a href="http://spiegel.de">spiegel.de</a>      SERVFAIL      EDE 6
    <a href="http://bmw.de">bmw.de</a>          SERVFAIL      EDE 6
    <a href="http://telekom.de">telekom.de</a>      SERVFAIL      EDE 6
    <a href="http://nonexistent-test-zzz.de">nonexistent-test-zzz.de</a>
                    SERVFAIL      EDE 6   (NXDOMAIN proof also fails)

The "still working" set is presumably whatever still has good cached
signatures; expect it to shrink as TTLs expire.

== Where the chain breaks ==

  root -> .de DS                          OK
  .de DNSKEY rrset, signed by KSK 26755   OK
  .de NSEC3 + SOA RRSIGs, signed by ZSK 33834   <-- malformed

Chain of trust is intact down to the DNSKEY rrset; the per-record
signatures generated by ZSK keytag 33834 do not validate. RRSIG
inception 2026-05-05 17:49:38 UTC, expiry 2026-05-19 19:19:38 UTC, so
fresh signatures, not an expiry. Looks like a ZSK / signer mismatch
(private signer key not corresponding to the published DNSKEY with that
tag) or a botched ZSK rollover.

== Not a nameserver distribution issue ==

I queried four .de authoritatives at different operators / networks for
the same NSEC3 RRSIG:

  <a href="http://a.nic.de">a.nic.de</a>   194.0.0.53
  <a href="http://f.nic.de">f.nic.de</a>   81.91.164.5
  <a href="http://s.de.net">s.de.net</a>   195.243.137.26
  <a href="http://n.de.net">n.de.net</a>   194.146.107.6

All four return BYTE-IDENTICAL RRSIGs (same inception/expiry/keytag,
identical base64). So the bad data left the signer already broken — it
is not a primary/secondary sync issue, anycast inconsistency, or
on-the-wire corruption.

== Sample bad RRSIG (from 194.0.0.53) ==

  <a href="http://a0d5d1p51kijsevll74k523htmq406bk.de">a0d5d1p51kijsevll74k523htmq406bk.de</a>. 7200 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 -
      A0D5F6VETKD4HE1UG3NJGF20U4QMCIAQ NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY NSEC3PARAM

  <a href="http://a0d5d1p51kijsevll74k523htmq406bk.de">a0d5d1p51kijsevll74k523htmq406bk.de</a>. 7200 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 7200
      20260519191938 20260505174938 33834 de.
      DZhBfHZt+n/IFEdUgogT4NpxzdkzLjUMslehShbTAbH6n4qaRnMH9zGu
      gRutdlxWrtEywgA6XEpU+vsE2wBkS3BWXA1D1BWoLqmxETwqZSmXnJ30
      IM16mtRwp9nxbWOMWAr/KfTiyoa+xPivpFl6Rg8jSzX3HIGGlLHAFVgZ KaY=

== Repro ==

  for r in 8.8.8.8 1.1.1.1 9.9.9.9; do
      dig <a href="http://denic.de">denic.de</a> @"$r" +noall +comments | grep -E '(status|EDE)'
  done

  # check the bad RRSIG is identical across .de authoritatives
  for ns in 194.0.0.53 81.91.164.5 195.243.137.26 194.146.107.6; do
      echo "--- $ns ---"
      dig <a href="http://denic.de">denic.de</a> DS @"$ns" +dnssec +noall +authority \
          | grep -E 'NSEC3 1 1|RRSIG NSEC3'
  done

== Asks ==

1. Anyone else seeing this from other vantage points? Any reports of it
   clearing up, or has it just started?
2. DENIC: a parallel report has been sent to <a href="mailto:dns-operations@denic.de">dns-operations@denic.de</a>.
3. If anyone has a current contact at DENIC outside that address,
   please ping them.

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