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style="font-family: tt;"><br><br><span>Ondřej Surý wrote on 2020-09-10
21:25:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:070EA050-44D0-4747-8940-3E788923DAB0@sury.org"><meta
http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Paul,<div><br></div><div>do
you actually believe that shouting the same thing over and over will
achieve anything?</div></blockquote><br>no, of course not.<br><br><blockquote
type="cite" cite="mid:070EA050-44D0-4747-8940-3E788923DAB0@sury.org"><div><br></div><div>We’ve
heard you before, we’ve listened to you, we’ve considered your
arguments, and you haven’t convinced us and there’s a consensus between
the vendors to go ahead with the change because it’s beneficial for the
DNS ecosystem.</div></blockquote><br>i think you changed the definition
of the words "we" and "us" midsentence.<br><br><blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:070EA050-44D0-4747-8940-3E788923DAB0@sury.org"><div><br></div><div>Sending
multiple shouts to mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... because you
have different opinion is not helpful to the DNS community nor to the
cause. We are as much DNS experts as you are.<br></div></blockquote><br>i
don't think all of the people i intend to address here have heard my
views. they may think that dns-oarc speaks for the community rather than
for a small self selected team. they may also think that i as
co-founder of dns-oarc can be relied upon to support this activity. so,
thank you for your concern for my reputation (or my sanity, if that's
also true), but i'll continue. if you wish to actually respond to any of
my claims, i am listening. if you wish to continue to ignore those
claims, i will cope.<br><br>this isn't a flag day and shouldn't be
called that. it cheapens the term.<br><br>1232 is a cargo-cult number.
we must not revere as holy those things which fall out of the sky.<br><br>there
is a right way to deprecate fragmentation. it would not involve adding
config complexity.<br><br>there is a right way to reach consensus. it's
an RFC draft, not a github repo for the initiated.<br><br>in the testing
referenced by the "flagday2020" web page, there was no significant
difference in loss between 1200 and 1400. there will be a significant
difference in truncation and tcp retry.<br><br><div
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