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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sorry for the self follow-up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I guess another question (and you can reply off-list if you like) would be…has anyone whitelisted Google IP ranges to exempt them from RRL?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thoughts on the idea of doing such?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">-jake<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-CA">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-CA"> Jake Zack
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<b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2019 4:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'dns-operations@dns-oarc.net' <dns-operations@dns-oarc.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Random question about Google resolver behaviour and long-lived TCP sessions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m trying to debug an issue and digging deeply into PCAP data on one of my authoritative DNS servers for TLD.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Specifically, I’m looking at TCP, and one of the things I’m measuring is average length of TCP sessions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For the most part, the output seems to be in the range that one might expect…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">2019-09-18 15:25:12.534091 - Close connection with 173.252.127.52.45455 - duration: 0.0403399467468262 seconds<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">2019-09-18 15:25:12.548596 - Close connection with 69.171.251.10.37785 - duration: 0.0552659034729004 seconds<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">2019-09-18 15:25:12.633225 - Close connection with 201.249.172.71.34289 - duration: 0.0829939842224121 seconds<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">2019-09-18 15:25:12.633796 - Close connection with 201.249.172.71.55488 - duration: 0.0827949047088623 seconds<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">2019-09-18 15:25:12.708638 - Close connection with 68.29.64.228.56799 - duration: 0.0311019420623779 seconds<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">2019-09-18 15:25:12.708749 - Close connection with 68.29.64.228.58025 - duration: 0.029994010925293 seconds<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But I occasionally discover outliers where the TCP sessions last much longer…and they’re all (every single one of them over a 3 hour period) owned by Google…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:25:56.142138 - Close connection with 66.249.66.130.50925 - duration: 30.0402970314026 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:25:56.809966 - Close connection with 66.249.66.149.49004 - duration: 30.0410430431366 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:25:57.261133 - Close connection with 66.249.66.87.42293 - duration: 30.0400409698486 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:25:58.926359 - Close connection with 66.249.66.212.40001 - duration: 30.0402669906616 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:25:59.792171 - Close connection with 66.249.66.44.56640 - duration: 30.0407900810242 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:01.443644 - Close connection with 66.249.66.202.49679 - duration: 30.040363073349 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:02.400458 - Close connection with 66.249.66.92.63989 - duration: 30.0400891304016 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:02.607956 - Close connection with 66.249.66.134.56630 - duration: 30.0398778915405 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:02.961079 - Close connection with 66.249.66.86.52236 - duration: 30.0424818992615 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:04.970860 - Close connection with 66.249.66.208.48889 - duration: 30.0415859222412 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:05.815438 - Close connection with 66.249.66.61.36638 - duration: 38.813982963562 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:06.594296 - Close connection with 66.249.66.43.62136 - duration: 33.7078130245209 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:06.927392 - Close connection with 66.249.66.85.35095 - duration: 30.0403559207916 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:07.825000 - Close connection with 66.249.66.199.49335 - duration: 30.0406250953674 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:08.017335 - Close connection with 66.249.66.217.48327 - duration: 30.0403158664703 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:08.721902 - Close connection with 66.249.66.94.55841 - duration: 30.0409507751465 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:10.040823 - Close connection with 66.249.66.45.55152 - duration: 30.0403800010681 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2019-09-18 15:26:16.919386 - Close connection with 66.249.66.60.42043 - duration: 30.0408978462219 seconds *** OVER5<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In any case, I’ve ruled out this being the cause of the issue I was investigating, but it still seems odd that no other software/organizations are behaving in the same way.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So I guess the question for the OARC list would be…do you see this same kind of behaviour from Google? And the question for Google is…what am I missing? What’s the need for this?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-Jacob Zack<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">DNS Architect – CIRA (.CA TLD)<o:p></o:p></p>
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