<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Vittorio,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In general, I try to avoid the DoH “discussions" as to date, they have tended to be full of hyperbole and rhetoric with relatively few facts, building strawmen and then arguing how those strawmen will do bad things. For example:<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">So, I totally agree that users should choose freely and have the final word - that's actually the topmost recommendation in the Internet draft I submitted. I do not agree that what Mozilla is doing puts users in charge; in fact, it does the opposite.</span> </div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>What Mozilla has publicly stated they are doing (see <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/doh/?gbt=1&index=HPTOUtziIYe_PFuawExeetkSjVg" class="">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/doh/?gbt=1&index=HPTOUtziIYe_PFuawExeetkSjVg</a>):</div><div><br class=""></div><div><pre class="wordwrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: SFMono-Regular, Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, "Liberation Mono", "Courier New", monospace; font-size: 12.25px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem; overflow: auto; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; padding: 0px; caret-color: rgb(33, 37, 41);"> [...]</pre><pre class="wordwrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: SFMono-Regular, Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, "Liberation Mono", "Courier New", monospace; font-size: 12.25px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem; overflow: auto; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; padding: 0px; caret-color: rgb(33, 37, 41);"> 2. The user will be informed that we have enabled use of a TRR and
have the opportunity to turn it off at that time, but will not be
required to opt-in to get DoH with a TRR.
3. Any given client will automatically select a resolver out of that
set and use that for all resolutions [with the two exceptions noted
below.]
4. At any time, the user will have the option to select a
different resolver out of the list, specify their own resolver, or
disable DoH entirely.</pre><pre class="wordwrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: SFMono-Regular, Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, "Liberation Mono", "Courier New", monospace; font-size: 12.25px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem; overflow: auto; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; padding: 0px; caret-color: rgb(33, 37, 41);"> [...]</pre><div class=""><div>This does not appear to me to be “the opposite” of putting the users in charge as you accuse. Of course, it is entirely possible that Mozilla are lying. I guess we’ll see.</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">-drc</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><style class="">ul[class*='mb-extra__public-links'], ul[class*='mb-note__public-links'], ul[class*='mb-task__public-links'] { display: none !important; }</style></body></html>