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    You waited less than an hour before proclaiming the list defunct? 
    It's Sunday in most of the world.  Most of us are doing other things
    than sitting on this list.<br>
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    That said, my initial thought is that your server answered your
    question.  Nothing more.  Did you ask it for the A record for
    googlemail.l.google.com ?  That might have told you more.<br>
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    Lyle Giese<br>
    LCR Computer Services, Inc.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/06/14 13:38, Mohamed Lrhazi
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAEU_gmei_WY+gbLkaVCnMPNyCBBtJPoq3mEKB3pTrZqYzaCvhQ@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">I am thinking this list is not appropriate for some
        of my questions... Could someone suggest a better one, maybe as
        active and rich, as this one, but more appropriate for general
        DNS discussions?
        <div><br>
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        <div>Thanks a lot,</div>
        <div>Mohamed.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Mohamed
          Lrhazi <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ml623@georgetown.edu" target="_blank">ml623@georgetown.edu</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">We had a little mail outage which turned out
              to be caused by one of our caching DNS servers returning
              the bellow incomplete reply.
              <div>
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              <div>Clearing the cache on the problematic server fixed
                the issue.... </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Am thinking it is now impossible for me to find the
                root cause in this instance... but wondering if you guys
                could hint at what could cause such a problem... bugs in
                the DNS servers involved? temporary misconfig at
                Google's servers? network issue?</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>The setup is a bit convoluted:</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>cache server --> resolver cache server -->
                Internet</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>The fix was clearing at the first server. so I am
                guessing at some point the resolver gave the incomplete
                answer.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Thanks a lot,</div>
              <div>Mohamed.</div>
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