<p dir="ltr">Actually I am all about making sure contact info is correct and trimming away "perp" abuses.</p>
<p dir="ltr">What I certainly did not suggest is that garbage in fields is good. That is quite an artful spin on what I said.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I said that this validation stage that got introduced in January was an inelegant mechanism of ensuring data quality that might be causing more harm than benefit. It may not have been vetted appropriately with understanding of adverse consequences with potentially impacted (legitimate, good actor) parties.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Many of the registrars at the ICANN meeting in Singapore last month elevated this to the attention of the community and leadership at ICANN.</p>
<p dir="ltr">There are reports of domain names - websites and email of legitimate businesses - that are being impacted by going dark when a legitimate contact doesn't get the response in due to not receiving the validation email due to spam filters or the registrar of record having an outbound email glitch/blockage or other real world reasons email might not correctly transmit between the registrar and the registrant.</p>
<p dir="ltr">While well intended, it was not well thought out and it is causing people's websites to dark and its not clear our measurable if it had any benefit for all the harm it is starting to cause.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I suspect that in the next 3-6 months someone not responding to the validation under real world circumstances will be at cause in a large legitimate website being inadvertently taken offline and it will hit the mainstream press.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I am all about chipping away at the abuse, but this particular method may have introduced more harm than benefit.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 22, 2014 7:57 PM, "Mark Andrews" <<a href="mailto:marka@isc.org">marka@isc.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
In message <<a href="mailto:CADe2gh5JsGy23tFyzOL0%2Bu7fBTFg1_cbjZfZHDytG4wFFzNcDg@mail.gmail.com">CADe2gh5JsGy23tFyzOL0+u7fBTFg1_cbjZfZHDytG4wFFzNcDg@mail.gmail.com</a>>, Jothan Frakes writes:<br>
><br>
> Not sure this is related, but ICANN recently enacted (IMHO this was very<br>
> ham-fisted and poorly thought out) contact validation rule for registrars<br>
> that required contacts be validated - with the consequence of failing to<br>
> validate being that the DNS stop working on a given name.<br>
<br>
So you think that any sort of garbage in the contact fields is good?<br>
<br>
> It was mostly so that TM/LEA could find bad actors or at least as a means<br>
> to ensure the bad actors would receive and validate their response of<br>
> emails. Logic was that domains for a given contact would go out of<br>
> delegation which should somehow make the internet safer.<br>
<br>
Its primary purpose is so that anyone can report problems with or<br>
coming from the domain. Out of band contact details are there to<br>
handle name servers being down. This has been its purpose from the<br>
very begining. That LEA use it for its intended purpose is not<br>
suprising.<br>
<br>
> Many notices for validation are getting lost in spam filters or not even<br>
> delivered, and the consequences of having a site go dark are starting to<br>
> increase.<br>
<br>
Well if registrars used DMARC p=reject for this sort of email the<br>
chances of it hitting a spam filter would be significantly reduced.<br>
This is the sort of email DMARC p=reject was designed to protect.<br>
<br>
> In any event, this may be entirely or slightly related to the issue.<br>
><br>
> Jothan Frakes<br>
> <a href="tel:%2B1.206-355-0230" value="+12063550230">+1.206-355-0230</a> tel<br>
> <a href="tel:%2B1.206-201-6881" value="+12062016881">+1.206-201-6881</a> fax<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Todd Lyons <<a href="mailto:tlyons@ivenue.com">tlyons@ivenue.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <<a href="mailto:bortzmeyer@nic.fr">bortzmeyer@nic.fr</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:01:39PM -0700,<br>
> > > Todd Lyons <<a href="mailto:tlyons@ivenue.com">tlyons@ivenue.com</a>> wrote<br>
> > > a message of 31 lines which said:<br>
> > ><br>
> > >> the expiration date is still a ways off, and whois is delegated to<br>
> > >> the correct DNS. But when we do a dig +trace for that domain, the<br>
> > >> GTLD servers don't return any NS glue.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Do they return NXDOMAIN or something else? Frankly, you do not provide<br>
> > > enough hard details. The actual output of whois and dig +trace or one<br>
> > > of these domains would help. There can be many reasons for this sort<br>
> > > of behaviour (Andrew Sullivan's hypothesis seems very probable).<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> > I think Andrew made a good educated guess. The domain that is<br>
> > currently exhibiting this behavior does have clientHold set. So now<br>
> > it's up to the client to figure out why their domain got set with<br>
> > clientHold. Here's the domain info:<br>
> ><br>
> > [todd@tlyons ~]$ whois <a href="http://aerosolscience.com" target="_blank">aerosolscience.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Whois Server Version 2.0<br>
> ><br>
> > Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered<br>
> > with many different competing registrars. Go to <a href="http://www.internic.net" target="_blank">http://www.internic.net</a><br>
> > for detailed information.<br>
> ><br>
> > Domain Name: <a href="http://AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM" target="_blank">AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM</a><br>
> > Registrar: TUCOWS DOMAINS INC.<br>
> > Whois Server: <a href="http://whois.tucows.com" target="_blank">whois.tucows.com</a><br>
> > Referral URL: <a href="http://domainhelp.opensrs.net" target="_blank">http://domainhelp.opensrs.net</a><br>
> > Name Server: <a href="http://NS1.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">NS1.IVENUE.COM</a><br>
> > Name Server: <a href="http://NS2.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">NS2.IVENUE.COM</a><br>
> > Status: clientDeleteProhibited<br>
> > Status: clientHold<br>
> > Status: clientTransferProhibited<br>
> > Status: clientUpdateProhibited<br>
> > Updated Date: 19-apr-2014<br>
> > Creation Date: 03-aug-2004<br>
> > Expiration Date: 03-aug-2014<br>
> ><br>
> > >>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:16:22 UTC <<<<br>
> ><br>
> > NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the<br>
> > registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is<br>
> > currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the<br>
> > expiration<br>
> > date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring<br>
> > registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to<br>
> > view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.<br>
> ><br>
> > TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois<br>
> > database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and<br>
> > automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or<br>
> > modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry<br>
> > Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for<br>
> > information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information<br>
> > about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not<br>
> > guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide<br>
> > by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only<br>
> > for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data<br>
> > to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass<br>
> > unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,<br>
> > or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes<br>
> > that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,<br>
> > repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly<br>
> > prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to<br>
> > use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or<br>
> > query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register<br>
> > domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right<br>
> > to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to<br>
> > ensure<br>
> > operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to<br>
> > the<br>
> > Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign<br>
> > reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.<br>
> ><br>
> > The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and<br>
> > Registrars.<br>
> > Domain Name: <a href="http://AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM" target="_blank">AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM</a><br>
> > Registry Domain ID: 126329129_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN<br>
> > Registrar WHOIS Server: <a href="http://whois.tucows.com" target="_blank">whois.tucows.com</a><br>
> > Registrar URL: <a href="http://tucowsdomains.com" target="_blank">http://tucowsdomains.com</a><br>
> > Updated Date: 2014-04-03 03:38:31<br>
> > Creation Date: 2004-08-03 15:15:53<br>
> > Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-08-03 15:15:53<br>
> > Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.<br>
> > Registrar IANA ID: 69<br>
> > Registrar Abuse Contact Email: <a href="mailto:domainabuse@tucows.com">domainabuse@tucows.com</a><br>
> > Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1.4165350123" value="+14165350123">+1.4165350123</a><br>
> > Reseller: Netfirms<br>
> > Reseller: <a href="mailto:support@netfirms.com">support@netfirms.com</a><br>
> > Reseller: <a href="tel:%2B1.866-317-4678" value="+18663174678">+1.866-317-4678</a><br>
> > Reseller: <a href="http://netfirms.com" target="_blank">http://netfirms.com</a><br>
> > Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited<br>
> > Domain Status: clientHold<br>
> > Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited<br>
> > Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited<br>
> > Registry Registrant ID:<br>
> > Registrant Name: Werner Bergman<br>
> > Registrant Organization: Aerosol Science<br>
> > Registrant Street: 6260 Stoneridge Mall Rd. A213<br>
> > Registrant City: Pleasanton<br>
> > Registrant State/Province: CA<br>
> > Registrant Postal Code: 94588<br>
> > Registrant Country: US<br>
> > Registrant Phone: <a href="tel:9254696922" value="+19254696922">9254696922</a><br>
> > Registrant Phone Ext:<br>
> > Registrant Fax:<br>
> > Registrant Fax Ext:<br>
> > Registrant Email: <a href="mailto:wernerbergman@comcast.net">wernerbergman@comcast.net</a><br>
> > Registry Admin ID:<br>
> > Admin Name: Werner Bergman<br>
> > Admin Organization: Aerosol Science<br>
> > Admin Street: 6260 Stoneridge Mall Rd. A213<br>
> > Admin City: Pleasanton<br>
> > Admin State/Province: CA<br>
> > Admin Postal Code: 94588<br>
> > Admin Country: US<br>
> > Admin Phone: <a href="tel:9254696922" value="+19254696922">9254696922</a><br>
> > Admin Phone Ext:<br>
> > Admin Fax:<br>
> > Admin Fax Ext:<br>
> > Admin Email: <a href="mailto:wernerbergman@comcast.net">wernerbergman@comcast.net</a><br>
> > Registry Tech ID:<br>
> > Tech Name: Domains Manager<br>
> > Tech Organization: Netfirms, Inc.<br>
> > Tech Street: 5160 Yonge St<br>
> > Tech City: Toronto<br>
> > Tech State/Province: ON<br>
> > Tech Postal Code: M2N6L9<br>
> > Tech Country: CA<br>
> > Tech Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1.4166612100" value="+14166612100">+1.4166612100</a><br>
> > Tech Phone Ext:<br>
> > Tech Fax: <a href="tel:%2B1.4166610700" value="+14166610700">+1.4166610700</a><br>
> > Tech Fax Ext:<br>
> > Tech Email: <a href="mailto:support@netfirms.com">support@netfirms.com</a><br>
> > Name Server: <a href="http://NS1.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">NS1.IVENUE.COM</a><br>
> > Name Server: <a href="http://NS2.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">NS2.IVENUE.COM</a><br>
> > DNSSEC: Unsigned<br>
> > URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:<br>
> > <a href="http://wdprs.internic.net/" target="_blank">http://wdprs.internic.net/</a><br>
> > >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-04-03 03:38:31 <<<<br>
> ><br>
> > Registration Service Provider:<br>
> > Netfirms, <a href="mailto:support@netfirms.com">support@netfirms.com</a><br>
> > <a href="tel:%2B1.866-317-4678" value="+18663174678">+1.866-317-4678</a><br>
> > <a href="tel:%2B1.781-998-8586" value="+17819988586">+1.781-998-8586</a> (fax)<br>
> > <a href="http://netfirms.com" target="_blank">http://netfirms.com</a><br>
> > This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,<br>
> > DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.<br>
> ><br>
> > The Data in the Tucows Registrar WHOIS database is provided to you by<br>
> > Tucows<br>
> > for information purposes only, and may be used to assist you in obtaining<br>
> > information about or related to a domain name's registration record.<br>
> ><br>
> > Tucows makes this information available "as is," and does not guarantee its<br>
> > accuracy.<br>
> ><br>
> > By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only for<br>
> > lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to:<br>
> > a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail,<br>
> > telephone, or facsimile of mass, unsolicited, commercial advertising or<br>
> > solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing<br>
> > customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that<br>
> > send queries or data to the systems of any Registry Operator or<br>
> > ICANN-Accredited registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register<br>
> > domain names or modify existing registrations.<br>
> ><br>
> > The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is<br>
> > expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Tucows.<br>
> ><br>
> > Tucows reserves the right to terminate your access to the Tucows WHOIS<br>
> > database in its sole discretion, including without limitation, for<br>
> > excessive<br>
> > querying of the WHOIS database or for failure to otherwise abide by this<br>
> > policy.<br>
> ><br>
> > Tucows reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.<br>
> ><br>
> > By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.<br>
> ><br>
> > NOTE: THE WHOIS DATABASE IS A CONTACT DATABASE ONLY. LACK OF A DOMAIN<br>
> > RECORD DOES NOT SIGNIFY DOMAIN AVAILABILITY.<br>
> ><br>
> > [todd@tlyons ~]$ dig +trace <a href="http://aerosolscience.com" target="_blank">aerosolscience.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.8.1-P1 <<>> +trace <a href="http://aerosolscience.com" target="_blank">aerosolscience.com</a><br>
> > ;; global options: +cmd<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://e.root-servers.net" target="_blank">e.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://f.root-servers.net" target="_blank">f.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://g.root-servers.net" target="_blank">g.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://h.root-servers.net" target="_blank">h.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://i.root-servers.net" target="_blank">i.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://j.root-servers.net" target="_blank">j.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://k.root-servers.net" target="_blank">k.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://l.root-servers.net" target="_blank">l.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://m.root-servers.net" target="_blank">m.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://a.root-servers.net" target="_blank">a.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://b.root-servers.net" target="_blank">b.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://c.root-servers.net" target="_blank">c.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > . 157142 IN NS <a href="http://d.root-servers.net" target="_blank">d.root-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > ;; Received 512 bytes from 192.168.100.10#53(192.168.100.10) in 19 ms<br>
> ><br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://k.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">k.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://f.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">f.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://j.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">j.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://b.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">b.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://a.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">a.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://m.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">m.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://g.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">g.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://i.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">i.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://c.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">c.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://e.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">e.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://h.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">h.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://l.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">l.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > com. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://d.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">d.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > ;; Received 496 bytes from 2001:dc3::35#53(2001:dc3::35) in 555 ms<br>
> ><br>
> > com. 900 IN SOA <a href="http://a.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">a.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br>
> > <a href="http://nstld.verisign-grs.com" target="_blank">nstld.verisign-grs.com</a>. 1398197799 1800 900 604800 86400<br>
> > ;; Received 112 bytes from 192.43.172.30#53(192.43.172.30) in 150 ms<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > The total budget at all receivers for solving senders' problems is $0.<br>
> > If you want them to accept your mail and manage it the way you want,<br>
> > send it the way the spec says to. --John Levine<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
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> > dns-jobs mailing list<br>
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> <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font=<br>
> -family:garamond,serif">Not sure this is related, but ICANN recently enacte=<br>
> d (IMHO this was very ham-fisted and poorly thought out) contact validation=<br>
> rule for registrars that required contacts be validated - with the consequ=<br>
> ence of failing to validate being that the DNS stop working on a given name=<br>
> .</div><br>
><br>
><br>
> <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:garamond,=<br>
> serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font=<br>
> -family:garamond,serif">It was mostly so that TM/LEA could find bad actors =<br>
> or at least as a means to ensure the bad actors would receive and validate =<br>
> their response of emails. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Logic was that domains for a given c=<br>
> ontact would go out of delegation which should somehow make the internet sa=<br>
> fer.</div><br>
><br>
><br>
> <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:garamond,=<br>
> serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font=<br>
> -family:garamond,serif">Many notices for validation are getting lost in spa=<br>
> m filters or not even delivered, and the consequences of having a site go d=<br>
> ark are starting to increase.</div><br>
><br>
><br>
> <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:garamond,=<br>
> serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font=<br>
> -family:garamond,serif">In any event, this may be entirely or slightly rela=<br>
> ted to the issue. =C2=A0</div><br>
><br>
><br>
> </div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div>Jothan Frakes<br>+1=<br>
> .206-355-0230 tel<br>+1.206-201-6881 fax</div><br>
> <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Todd Ly=<br>
> ons <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:<a href="mailto:tlyons@ivenue.com">tlyons@ivenue.com</a>" target=3D"_b=<br>
> lank"><a href="mailto:tlyons@ivenue.com">tlyons@ivenue.com</a></a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=<br>
> _quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=<br>
> 1ex"><br>
><br>
> <div class=3D"">On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <<=<br>
> a href=3D"mailto:<a href="mailto:bortzmeyer@nic.fr">bortzmeyer@nic.fr</a>"><a href="mailto:bortzmeyer@nic.fr">bortzmeyer@nic.fr</a></a>> wrote:<br><br>
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:01:39PM -0700,<br><br>
> > =C2=A0Todd Lyons <<a href=3D"mailto:<a href="mailto:tlyons@ivenue.com">tlyons@ivenue.com</a>">tlyons@ivenu=<br>
> <a href="http://e.com" target="_blank">e.com</a></a>> wrote<br><br>
> > =C2=A0a message of 31 lines which said:<br><br>
> ><br><br>
> >> the expiration date is still a ways off, and whois is delegated to=<br>
> <br><br>
> >> the correct DNS. =C2=A0But when we do a dig +trace for that domain=<br>
> , the<br><br>
> >> GTLD servers don't return any NS glue.<br><br>
> ><br><br>
> > Do they return NXDOMAIN or something else? Frankly, you do not provide=<br>
> <br><br>
> > enough hard details. The actual output of whois and dig +trace or one<=<br>
> br><br>
> > of these domains would help. There can be many reasons for this sort<b=<br>
> r><br>
> > of behaviour (Andrew Sullivan's hypothesis seems very probable).<b=<br>
> r><br>
> ><br><br>
> <br><br>
> </div>I think Andrew made a good educated guess. =C2=A0The domain that is<b=<br>
> r><br>
> currently exhibiting this behavior does have clientHold set. =C2=A0So now<b=<br>
> r><br>
> it's up to the client to figure out why their domain got set with<br><br>
> clientHold. =C2=A0Here's the domain info:<br><br>
> <br><br>
> [todd@tlyons ~]$ whois <a href=3D"<a href="http://aerosolscience.com" target="_blank">http://aerosolscience.com</a>" target=3D"_bla=<br>
> nk"><a href="http://aerosolscience.com" target="_blank">aerosolscience.com</a></a><br><br>
> <br><br>
> Whois Server Version 2.0<br><br>
> <br><br>
> Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered<br><br>
> with many different competing registrars. Go to <a href=3D"<a href="http://www.inter" target="_blank">http://www.inter</a>=<br>
> <a href="http://nic.net" target="_blank">nic.net</a>" target=3D"_blank"><a href="http://www.internic.net" target="_blank">http://www.internic.net</a></a><br><br>
> for detailed information.<br><br>
> <br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Domain Name: <a href=3D"<a href="http://AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM" target="_blank">http://AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM</a>" target=3D"_=<br>
> blank"><a href="http://AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM" target="_blank">AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM</a></a><br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Registrar: TUCOWS DOMAINS INC.<br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Whois Server: <a href=3D"<a href="http://whois.tucows.com" target="_blank">http://whois.tucows.com</a>" target=3D"_b=<br>
> lank"><a href="http://whois.tucows.com" target="_blank">whois.tucows.com</a></a><br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Referral URL: <a href=3D"<a href="http://domainhelp.opensrs.net" target="_blank">http://domainhelp.opensrs.net</a>" target=<br>
> =3D"_blank"><a href="http://domainhelp.opensrs.net" target="_blank">http://domainhelp.opensrs.net</a></a><br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Name Server: <a href=3D"<a href="http://NS1.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">http://NS1.IVENUE.COM</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://NS1.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">NS1.IVENUE.COM</a></a><br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Name Server: <a href=3D"<a href="http://NS2.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">http://NS2.IVENUE.COM</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://NS2.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">NS2.IVENUE.COM</a></a><br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Status: clientDeleteProhibited<br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Status: clientHold<br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Status: clientTransferProhibited<br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Status: clientUpdateProhibited<br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Updated Date: 19-apr-2014<br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creation Date: 03-aug-2004<br><br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Expiration Date: 03-aug-2014<br><br>
> <br><br>
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> Domain Name: <a href=3D"<a href="http://AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM" target="_blank">http://AEROSOLSCIENCE.COM</a>" target=3D"_blank">AEROSO=<br>
> <a href="http://LSCIENCE.COM" target="_blank">LSCIENCE.COM</a></a><br><br>
> Registry Domain ID: 126329129_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN<br><br>
> Registrar WHOIS Server: <a href=3D"<a href="http://whois.tucows.com" target="_blank">http://whois.tucows.com</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://whois.tucows.com" target="_blank">whois.tucows.com</a></a><br><br>
> Registrar URL: <a href=3D"<a href="http://tucowsdomains.com" target="_blank">http://tucowsdomains.com</a>" target=3D"_blank">http:=<br>
> //<a href="http://tucowsdomains.com" target="_blank">tucowsdomains.com</a></a><br><br>
> Updated Date: 2014-04-03 03:38:31<br><br>
> Creation Date: 2004-08-03 15:15:53<br><br>
> Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-08-03 15:15:53<br><br>
> Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.<br><br>
> Registrar IANA ID: 69<br><br>
> Registrar Abuse Contact Email: <a href=3D"mailto:<a href="mailto:domainabuse@tucows.com">domainabuse@tucows.com</a>">do=<br>
> <a href="mailto:mainabuse@tucows.com">mainabuse@tucows.com</a></a><br><br>
> Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: <a href=3D"tel:%2B1.<a href="tel:4165350123" value="+14165350123">4165350123</a>" value=3D"+14=<br>
> 165350123"><a href="tel:%2B1.4165350123" value="+14165350123">+1.4165350123</a></a><br><br>
> Reseller: Netfirms<br><br>
> Reseller: <a href=3D"mailto:<a href="mailto:support@netfirms.com">support@netfirms.com</a>"><a href="mailto:support@netfirms.com">support@netfirms.com</a></a><=<br>
> br><br>
> Reseller: <a href=3D"tel:%2B1.866-317-4678" value=3D"+18663174678">+1.866-3=<br>
> 17-4678</a><br><br>
> Reseller: <a href=3D"<a href="http://netfirms.com" target="_blank">http://netfirms.com</a>" target=3D"_blank"><a href="http://netfirms" target="_blank">http://netfirms</a>=<br>
> .com</a><br><br>
> Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited<br><br>
> Domain Status: clientHold<br><br>
> Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited<br><br>
> Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited<br><br>
> Registry Registrant ID:<br><br>
> Registrant Name: Werner Bergman<br><br>
> Registrant Organization: Aerosol Science<br><br>
> Registrant Street: 6260 Stoneridge Mall Rd. A213<br><br>
> Registrant City: Pleasanton<br><br>
> Registrant State/Province: CA<br><br>
> Registrant Postal Code: 94588<br><br>
> Registrant Country: US<br><br>
> Registrant Phone: <a href=3D"tel:9254696922" value=3D"+19254696922">9254696=<br>
> 922</a><br><br>
> Registrant Phone Ext:<br><br>
> Registrant Fax:<br><br>
> Registrant Fax Ext:<br><br>
> Registrant Email: <a href=3D"mailto:<a href="mailto:wernerbergman@comcast.net">wernerbergman@comcast.net</a>">wernerbergma=<br>
> <a href="mailto:n@comcast.net">n@comcast.net</a></a><br><br>
> Registry Admin ID:<br><br>
> Admin Name: Werner Bergman<br><br>
> Admin Organization: Aerosol Science<br><br>
> Admin Street: 6260 Stoneridge Mall Rd. A213<br><br>
> Admin City: Pleasanton<br><br>
> Admin State/Province: CA<br><br>
> Admin Postal Code: 94588<br><br>
> Admin Country: US<br><br>
> Admin Phone: <a href=3D"tel:9254696922" value=3D"+19254696922">9254696922</=<br>
> a><br><br>
> Admin Phone Ext:<br><br>
> Admin Fax:<br><br>
> Admin Fax Ext:<br><br>
> Admin Email: <a href=3D"mailto:<a href="mailto:wernerbergman@comcast.net">wernerbergman@comcast.net</a>">wernerbergman@com=<br>
> <a href="http://cast.net" target="_blank">cast.net</a></a><br><br>
> Registry Tech ID:<br><br>
> Tech Name: Domains Manager<br><br>
> Tech Organization: Netfirms, Inc.<br><br>
> Tech Street: 5160 Yonge St<br><br>
> Tech City: Toronto<br><br>
> Tech State/Province: ON<br><br>
> Tech Postal Code: M2N6L9<br><br>
> Tech Country: CA<br><br>
> Tech Phone: <a href=3D"tel:%2B1.4166612100" value=3D"+14166612100">+1.41666=<br>
> 12100</a><br><br>
> Tech Phone Ext:<br><br>
> Tech Fax: <a href=3D"tel:%2B1.4166610700" value=3D"+14166610700">+1.4166610=<br>
> 700</a><br><br>
> Tech Fax Ext:<br><br>
> Tech Email: <a href=3D"mailto:<a href="mailto:support@netfirms.com">support@netfirms.com</a>"><a href="mailto:support@netfirms.com">support@netfirms.com</a></a=<br>
> ><br><br>
> Name Server: <a href=3D"<a href="http://NS1.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">http://NS1.IVENUE.COM</a>" target=3D"_blank">NS1.IVENUE=<br>
> .COM</a><br><br>
> Name Server: <a href=3D"<a href="http://NS2.IVENUE.COM" target="_blank">http://NS2.IVENUE.COM</a>" target=3D"_blank">NS2.IVENUE=<br>
> .COM</a><br><br>
> DNSSEC: Unsigned<br><br>
> URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: <a href=3D"<a href="http://wdp" target="_blank">http://wdp</a>=<br>
> <a href="http://rs.internic.net/" target="_blank">rs.internic.net/</a>" target=3D"_blank"><a href="http://wdprs.internic.net/" target="_blank">http://wdprs.internic.net/</a></a><br><br>
> >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-04-03 03:38:31 <<<=<br>
> ;<br><br>
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> Registration Service Provider:<br><br>
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> [todd@tlyons ~]$ dig +trace <a href=3D"<a href="http://aerosolscience.com" target="_blank">http://aerosolscience.com</a>" target=3D=<br>
> "_blank"><a href="http://aerosolscience.com" target="_blank">aerosolscience.com</a></a><br><br>
> <br><br>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.8.1-P1 <<>> +trace <a href=3D"<a href="http://a" target="_blank">http://a</a>=<br>
> <a href="http://erosolscience.com" target="_blank">erosolscience.com</a>" target=3D"_blank"><a href="http://aerosolscience.com" target="_blank">aerosolscience.com</a></a><br><br>
> ;; global options: +cmd<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://e.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://e.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://e.root-servers.net" target="_blank">e.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://f.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://f.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://f.root-servers.net" target="_blank">f.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://g.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://g.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://g.root-servers.net" target="_blank">g.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://h.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://h.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://h.root-servers.net" target="_blank">h.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://i.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://i.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://i.root-servers.net" target="_blank">i.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://j.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://j.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://j.root-servers.net" target="_blank">j.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://k.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://k.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://k.root-servers.net" target="_blank">k.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://l.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://l.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://l.root-servers.net" target="_blank">l.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://m.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://m.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://m.root-servers.net" target="_blank">m.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://a.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://a.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://a.root-servers.net" target="_blank">a.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://b.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://b.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://b.root-servers.net" target="_blank">b.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://c.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://c.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://c.root-servers.net" target="_blank">c.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0157142 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0 =<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://d.root-servers.net" target="_blank">http://d.root-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_blan=<br>
> k"><a href="http://d.root-servers.net" target="_blank">d.root-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> ;; Received 512 bytes from 192.168.100.10#53(192.168.100.10) in 19 ms<br><br>
> <br><br>
> com. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0172800 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0=<br>
> =C2=A0NS =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"<a href="http://k.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">http://k.gtld-servers.net</a>" target=3D"_bla=<br>
> nk"><a href="http://k.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">k.gtld-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> com. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0172800 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0=<br>
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> com. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0172800 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0=<br>
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> com. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0172800 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0=<br>
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> com. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0172800 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0=<br>
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> com. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0172800 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0=<br>
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> nk"><a href="http://c.gtld-servers.net" target="_blank">c.gtld-servers.net</a></a>.<br><br>
> com. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0172800 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IN =C2=A0=<br>
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> ;; Received 496 bytes from 2001:dc3::35#53(2001:dc3::35) in 555 ms<br><br>
> <br><br>
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