<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style>Hi Jo,<br></div><div style><br></div><div style>On 2013-02-24, at 14:26, Jo Rhett <<a href="mailto:jrhett@netconsonance.com">jrhett@netconsonance.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div>On 23/02/2013, at 2:53 AM, Jo Rhett <<a href="mailto:jrhett@netconsonance.com">jrhett@netconsonance.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none">No. I've had this conversation many times and employees of big companies feel that it's impossible, and don't even raise the issue with their management. In two different occasions I arranged a meeting with their management and made the case for it, at which point the managers told the unbelieving employee to make it happen.</span></blockquote>
</div></div></blockquote><br>On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Daniel Griggs wrote:<blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>If you have a presentation that you can share with the class, that would be great.</div>
<div>It would make a useful addition to any security workshops or discussions I have with providers around security.</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div>This topic really is so much simpler than most people put it out there. Completely ignore any topic of "being a good person". There are a group of related legal terms that come into play:</div>
</blockquote><div style><br></div><span style>I am always wary of assertions of law, made by non-lawyers especially, where there's an implicit assumption that there's a single legal system we're dealing with, in a single jurisdiction, when the Internet (even ignoring Seth Breidbart) is necessarily global and supernational. </span><div>
<span style><br></span></div><div><span style>Even with citations from case law in particular justifications, I find this line of thinking questionable in a global context. </span></div><div><span style><br></span></div><div>
<span style>Boiled down, this is equivalent to technical approaches like "block qtype=any": it's whack-a-mole, and there are many more moles in any operational timeframe than will make any real difference, given the practical potential for whacking. We should be looking elsewhere, regardless of the demonstrated longevity of individual moles.</span></div>
<div><span style><br></span></div><div><span style>Am I wrong?</span></div><div><span style><br></span></div><div><span style><br></span></div><div><span style>Joe</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style>(no small burrowing mammals were harmed in the thinking that preceded this expression of doubt)</span></div>
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