[dns-operations] any registries require DNSKEY not DS?

Warren Kumari warren at kumari.net
Thu Jan 23 00:34:51 UTC 2020


On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 7:12 PM Tony Finch <dot at dotat.at> wrote:
>
> Warren Kumari <warren at kumari.net> wrote:
> >
> > I believe that at least SIDN used to (and perhaps still does) - this
> > was one of the reasons that the CDS record is actually CDS/CDNSKEY.
> >
> > When I first heard this I was confused as to why they'd do this -- but
> > then Antoin Verschuren / Cristian explained that they'd like to make
> > sure that a good hash is being used, and suddenly I started wondering
> > why this isn't the default...:-)
>
> In fact I have made use of this! In more than one way!
>
> I did some work on BIND last year to implement RFC 8624 section 3.3 -
> death to SHA-1 DS records! But I left out the dnssec-cds utility
> (parent-side implementation of RFC 7344) which already defaulted to
> SHA-256. However during my cam.ac.uk algorithm rollover project
> (remember, folks, RSASHA1 is shafted) I found a lacuna:
>
> By default dnssec-cds copies CDS records to make DS records, and the
> question of SHA-256 or something else only arose when it was asked to turn
> CDNSKEY records into DS records. But if the CDS records are generated by
> some ancient code from before the dawn of time, such as BIND 9.14 on my
> production servers, there will be SHA-1 CDS records which will be copied
> to the DS records. Sadface, RFC 8624 protocol violation.
>
> So I fixed dnssec-cds to filter out SHA-1 CDS records.
>
> And, if the child turns out to have been so foolish as to use only SHA-1,
> dnssec-cds will now fall back to using the CDNSKEY records to make SHA-256
> DS records instead.
>

Oooh! Cool.


> In production for my child zones I've faked this by telling dnssec-cds
> (9.14 sans patch) to only look at CDNSKEY records.
>
> All in all this is a practical example of daddy knows best wrt choice of
> DS digest types.
>

Nice / fair 'nuff.
W

> Tony.
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