[dns-operations] glitch on [ip6|in-addr].arpa?

Paul Vixie paul at redbarn.org
Mon Oct 21 00:02:57 UTC 2019


On Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:44:07 UTC Adam Vallee wrote:
> So what your admitting here, with your interesting choice of Words, is that
> Cogent is NOT in fact a Tier 1 provider. In the traditional definition of a
> "FreeNet" where a Tier 1 provider peers with all other Tier 1 providers in
> a shared cost model.

please don't put words in my mouth; they may not fit.

> That's good to know, because in fact our experience is that their service
> doesn't compare to Telia, HE, and GTT, and I was finally able to convince
> our NA Team to dump Cogent at Contract Renewal. Their routes are longer and
> have higher latency.

your business, your rules.

> And we now announce the C-Root ASN and IP prefixes to our internal network,
> in effect running our own C-Root.

your network, your rules.

> ...
> 
> Thank you for sharing.

to wit:

> On Wed., Oct. 16, 2019, 10:27 a.m. Paul Vixie, <paul at redbarn.org> wrote:
> > a late followup.
> > 
> > Rubens Kuhl wrote on 2019-10-12 13:50:
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > If someone from Cogent is reading, that's their opportunity to step
> > > up and provide at least a partial feed to OARC.
> > 
> > i'm part of the cogent c-root team, and i was a co-founder of dns-oarc.
> > we have hosted elements of the dns-oarc project at cogent before, and we
> > are working with the dns-oarc engineering team to make our
> > ipv6-addressed c-root server visible to their measurement systems.
> > 
> > > Unless they want to do the better thing which is to end this peering
> > > war and stop messing IPv6 Internet...
> > 
> > when i succeeded dave rand as cto of abovenet in Y2K or so, we had a
> > completely open peering policy -- we even peered with customers, if they
> > wanted a second BGP connection so they didn't have to pay by bit-volume
> > when exchange traffic with our other customers. this made business sense
> > to the company and its employees and investors and customers.
> > 
> > hurricane and cogent are also businesses, each having employees and
> > investors and customers. they are each doing what makes sense to them.
> > this is not a "peering war" by any stretch of the vocabulary. cogent
> > does not have a completely open peering policy, and while hurricane has
> > transit for its ipv4 network, it lacks transit for its ipv6 network.
> > 
> > their networks, their rules.
> > 
> > --
> > P Vixie

-- 
Paul




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