[dns-operations] in-addr.arpa spikes in DNS traffic

MONROE, JEREMY jm9386 at att.com
Sat Dec 22 15:34:45 UTC 2018


Please see below – AT&T has received bursts in PTR queries as described below – has anyone hear seen similar behavior recently?  This first occurred in March of 2018 – subsided and began again here in December.

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From: Wessels, Duane <dwessels at verisign.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 16:05
To: MONROE, JEREMY <jm9386 at att.com>
Subject: Re: RE: in-addr.arpa spikes in DNS traffic

Yeah that’s an odd one.  If the IPs are real (not spoofed) and you see queries that you are authoritative for, then it would point to something generating large amounts of queries through legitimate recursives.

We asked our root server colleagues they saw anything like that.  Only one responded so far, and said (like us) they did not.

As you may know, root servers typically handle in the range of 50k q/s these days.  The 200-400k that you observe would definitely be noticeable.

Currently the only reasonable way you could reach all the root operators is to send email to ask-rssac at icann.org<mailto:ask-rssac at icann.org>.  Someone would receive it and then forward it to the operators.  Given the timing with holidays I wouldn’t hold your breath.

You might also consider posting to the dns-operations at dns-oarc.net<mailto:dns-operations at dns-oarc.net> mailing list to reach other DNS operators more broadly.

DW


From: "MONROE, JEREMY" <jm9386 at att.com<mailto:jm9386 at att.com>>
Date: Friday, December 21, 2018 at 1:48 PM
To: Duane Wessels <dwessels at verisign.com<mailto:dwessels at verisign.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: in-addr.arpa spikes in DNS traffic

We are seeing short bursts of PTR query traffic.  Sources seem to be all open ISP resolvers scattered all over the United States.  I host a bunch of in-addr.arpa zones from top level delegations and each of the queries appears to be for legitimate PTR records that we have defined.  We typically receive about 7-10kpps (Packets Per Second) (not terribly large) and over the last week or two have received what seems like coordinated bursts of up and over 200-400kpps of all PTR records.  First observed in the United States – but today I learned our European based resolvers have also received similar spikes.  My assumption was that if a bunch of ISP resolvers began receiving PTR queries for recursion – that the root servers might have seen an increase in folks asking what DNS servers to use for certain in-addr.arpa space at AT&T.  We have not seen a significant number of queries for arpa’s that we are not authoritative for – it’s an odd MO.

Thank you for taking the time to reply back.  Is there any way to see if any of the other root-server providers have noticed anything of that sort?  Im really grasping at straws at this point.

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From: Wessels, Duane <dwessels at verisign.com<mailto:dwessels at verisign.com>>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 15:37
To: MONROE, JEREMY <jm9386 at att.com<mailto:jm9386 at att.com>>
Subject: Re: in-addr.arpa spikes in DNS traffic

Jeremy,

We don’t see anything like that here.  You mentioned both PTR and NS queries.  Are you seeing both, or is it one or the other?

What you describe could be caused by availability issues with the lower levels of the DNS.  Did you notice any similarities in the names being queried?

DW


From: "MONROE, JEREMY" <jm9386 at att.com<mailto:jm9386 at att.com>>
Date: Friday, December 21, 2018 at 7:52 AM
To: rootdns <rootdns at verisign.com<mailto:rootdns at verisign.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] in-addr.arpa spikes in DNS traffic

Hello – Im looking into a few network events where we received huge spikes in what appears to be valid PTR record lookups for zones to which we are authoritative for.  Can you confirm whether or not the root servers have seen similar spikes in in-addr.arpa related NS queries?

Jeremy Monroe
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