On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:58:14PM -0800, Mark Milhollan <mlm at pixelgate.net> wrote a message of 36 lines which said: > I believe Google is also providing 7858 service. No. % telnet 8.8.8.8 853 Trying 8.8.8.8... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out