[dns-operations] whois in a soundbite

Mark Andrews marka at isc.org
Mon Mar 7 00:40:20 UTC 2016

GOV's whois is useless.  All you get is existence or not of the name.

% whois fbi.gov
% DOTGOV WHOIS Server ready
   Domain Name: FBI.GOV
   Status: ACTIVE

>>> Last update of whois database: 2016-03-07T00:16:48Z <<<
Please be advised that this whois server only contains information pertaining
to the .GOV domain. For information for other domains please use the whois
server at RS.INTERNIC.NET.

Part of the point of whois is to be able to get to someone who can
fix things when servers are broken.  This does not do this.


In message <20160304024447.81746.qmail at ary.lan>, "John Levine" writes:
> >> I can do better in fewer words: whois is utterly useless.
> >>
> >`whois` is very useful for those who needs to harvest data to identify
> >malicious domains such as Fast-Flux and DGAs.
> >
> >Well, at least for academic issues, it has been very useful.
> Even in its current cruddy state, WHOIS is extremely useful to figure
> out who's doing evil stuff online and in some cases build legal cases
> against them.  I talk to people all the time who do this, in industry,
> academia, and law enforcement.  I have testifed in court at trials of
> online criminals.
> So please don't say "whois is useless". It's not true, and it helps
> the clueless self-appointed privacy activists who want to destroy what
> utility WHOIS has.
> R's,
> John
> PS: I've talked to at least one lawyer at a well known public interest
> group who wouldn't believe me when I told him most domains are
> registered by businesses rather than individuals, because of the
> nonsense his privacy activist friends had been feeding him.
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