[dns-operations] DNS-based site blocking in the UK

Frank Bulk frnkblk at iname.com
Thu Aug 11 17:33:33 UTC 2011

Yes, I've been keeping my eye on that one.  But it isn't law, yet.


-----Original Message-----
From: Livingood, Jason [mailto:Jason_Livingood at cable.comcast.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:20 AM
To: frnkblk at iname.com; 'Wes Hardaker'
Cc: dns-operations at mail.dns-oarc.net
Subject: Re: [dns-operations] DNS-based site blocking in the UK

I think he is referring to the new U.S. ISP Data Retention bill (news @

It is called "Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011"
- see 

I have not been following it closely but I believe it requires ISPs to
keep records of which customers are assigned IP addresses for a period of
12 - 18 months (not sure whether it is 12 or 18 - different news accounts
have different dates).


On 8/10/11 7:03 PM, "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk at iname.com> wrote:

>Wes, what law or regulation requires ISPs to keep address logs?
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>Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 1:53 PM
>To: Jim Reid
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>Subject: Re: [dns-operations] DNS-based site blocking in the UK
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:39:23 +0100, Jim Reid <jim at rfc1035.com> said:
>JR> Wes, I fear you've over-reacted. Yes, governments could pass laws to
>JR> affect port 53 traffic. I doubt they are that stupid. [Though seeing
>JR> the sorts of silliness coming out of legislators all over the world,
>JR> there are valid grounds to debate that.] There will (or should be) a
>JR> recognition that any legislation shouldn't mention specific
>JR> countermeasures because the bad guys will just route around them
>JR> faster than the law could be updated.
>I think you give most governments too much credit.  In the US, they've
>already required that ISPs keep address logs for X years so that they
>can specifically track down those "bad guys sharing files".  It's just
>as simple to tell the ISPs "you must block", as they already have a
>history of passing legislation that restricts/requires ISPs to do things.
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