[dns-operations] good one was Re: DNSSEC impact ...

Joseph S D Yao jsdy at center.osis.gov
Thu May 29 12:26:54 UTC 2008

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 04:50:36PM -0700, David Conrad wrote:
> Mark,
> This is a fairly pointless course of discussion.  You are way beyond 3  
> standard deviations from the mean in terms of ability to even  
> understand what the problem is.  I'd estimate somewhere close to 99%  
> of folks on the Internet have no idea even what the DNS _is_, much  
> less how to debug a DNS delegation, much less why DNSSEC validation  
> failed.

Damned with STRONG praise, by golly!  I haven't seen that done for a
while.  Mark understands the subject SO well, he can't understand the
problem with understanding the subject, eh?  ;-}

> I suspect folks at ISP help desks would have trouble debugging even a
> DNS delegation mistake. Suggesting folks use "dig" and "date" to
> figure out why they can't get to www.people.com is just being silly
> (does MS Windows even have dig?).

As of yesterday, MS Windows did not natively have dig or host, even
Vista, and I wasn't able to get 'nslookup' to work with queries on AAAA

To be fair, on Mac OS X, I couldn't get 'dig aaaa www.ipv6.org' to work,
and had to tell folks to use 'dig -t aaaa www.ipv6.org'.  Everything has
its little problems.  [MSW's is being MSW.]

Joe Yao
Qinetiq NA / Analex Contractor

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