[as112-ops] new prefix for AS112? (2a0b:4e04:6666::/48 in RIPE with various origins it should not have)

[Radu Anghel]

Jeroen,

You might want to revise your definition of bullying, though, maybe 
using a mirror would help.

Quoting from a previous message in this thread (Marco's), "any random 
idiot with control over an inetnum object can create a corresponding 
route/route6 object referencing any ASN they want".

If you have any suggestions on how to refer to networks such as the one 
operated by the fast responsive mr. Fedorov (that everybody should be 
grateful for instead of upset for creating the problem!) without 
actually singling him out or making him need a lawyer, I'd be very 
interested.

I'm not aware of anybody saying "corporations" don't create issues on 
the Internet, you might find some messages on this list from a couple of 
months ago about Cloudflare creating issues themselves, complaining, 
then fixing them.

And, mirroring you, as you are not an academic (notice how I say that 
without having any clue about your academic background?), I suggest you 
continue plugging or unplugging cables until the rest of the world with 
operational experience starts dropping ROV unknowns before having any 
opinion on what gets published or not.
(bla bla AS112 gets ROAs too, bla bla ASPA)

But, being on topic: do AS112 instances automatically add and announce 
prefixes just because a random route: appears in an IRR? It would be 
pretty interesting to find out how/why.

-- Radu


On 16.10.2024 10:57, Jeroen Massar wrote:
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>> On 16 Oct 2024, at 09:08, Radu Anghel via as112-ops <as112-ops at dns-oarc.net> wrote:
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>> From: Radu Anghel <radu.anghel at xindi.ro>
>> Subject: Re: [as112-ops] new prefix for AS112? (2a0b:4e04:6666::/48 in RIPE with various origins it should not have)
>> Date: 16 October 2024 at 09:08:39 CEST
>> To: as112-ops at lists.dns-oarc.net
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>> Hi Jeroen,
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>> This looks like a 'personal' ASN, I am sure this is just an experiment done for a learning purpose and it greatly helps the Internet at large. Perhaps we should be more understanding and supportive with this type of initiatives. /s
> 
> As you have been told over and over again, and will have to be told over and over again:
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> There are many examples to be found of "corporations" creating issues on the Internet.
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> And as you can see, this issue has been resolved swiftly by contacting the operator, no such case in other such examples of wrong IRR/whois data.
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>> Who knows, it might even produce academic publications ;)
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> Fortunately no real conference will accept bullying of that kind. Also, I think it is against university academic policies to do so.
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> I have no idea why you need to call out single people, maybe as you assume they have no legal support to counteract your harassment?
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> As you are a non-operator, I suggest maybe not involving yourself in operations until you have done operations.
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> Please find something else to do with your time on this planet, there are lot more technical and useful problems to solve.
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> As many older network operators would say: /plonk.
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> Regards,
>   Jeroen
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